Who Needs Justice?

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Dubious Adventures with Senators
   Yesterday, Thursday, three ASUCD Senators and the Chief Justice were found on the fifth floor of the MU and told to leave by an unidentified official. Ironically the individuals in question constitute one fourth of the governming board which officially owns the Memorial Union, and the head of the branch that decides what they can and cannot do.

   Shortly thereafter, Senator Thomas Lloyd regaled some of us with his thoughts on how there is no need for an ASUCD Supreme Court because if there is ever a question of the meaning of a bylaw the Senate could solve it through legislation. I asked him who would protect the rights of the minority party if say one party had 2/3rds of the seats as Focus recently did for a year, to which he responded something along the lines of "well the Court could be just as biased as Senators." This caused Gordon "I was President of my JC" Fung to become emotionally destraught. After he had stormed out of the room I countered Lloyd with "but no really unless you can either cite an example of the judicial branch failing in a similar institution, or evidence of our justices voting along party lines, to say it doesn't work as you do is nothing more than utterly unsubstantiated speculation that flies in the face of existing evidence." He appears to remain dedicated to the elimination of the judicial branch and any other checks on legislative power.
   He also expressed an interest in banning the Chief Justice from Senate meetings. This led current chief justice myself to ask him "Why do you hate justice, Senator Lloyd?"


Picture of the Day

Jadine's feet

Conversation of the Day
Me: What ho!
Carissa: What does that mean?!
Me: I think its what pioneers say, like "onward, what ho!"
Me: I think its like "or whatever"

Word of the Day: Igtheism - the belief that theistic doctrine employs words that cannot be understood to the point that the entire undertaking is impossible. Basically I think it is "I have no idea what the fuck religious people are talking about."

Headline of the Day: "Being Successful in Law School - CANCELLED!" according to the poli sci listserve. There go my plans.

Wiki Entry of the Day: Don't Feed the Ducks - why you shouldn't feed the ducks.. but its more interesting than you'd think. And explains our infestation of administrators.

Previously on Emosnail
   Two Years Ago Today: "Glaring Misuses of English" - stayed up all night writing my masterpeice, the Legend of Boot.
   Year Ago Today: Pixies Show - back then we had awesome shows all the time.

Entry started: 04/28 23:13hrs; Concluded: 04/29 18:27hrs

Comments

[furzicle.livejournal.com]

hello, ho.
wait...that didn't sound so good...

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

I think it only works in connection with "what"

Davis flora

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

Also, I thought you might be interested in this entry: http://www.daviswiki.org/Town_Flora

[littlenick.livejournal.com]

I knew thomas lloyd before he became a senator, and I had high hopes for him. But all this bullshit about him wanting to eliminate A) the judicial branch B) commission chairs from senate meetings is just ridiculous.

If it isn't broken, why are you trying to fix it Mr. lloyd?!
and why is there even SUPPORT for his point of view?

[codetoad.livejournal.com]

Actually, the commission chairs thing is interesting. I've been to a few senate meetings in my day, and the whole 18 people at the table thing is really kind of crappy.

[codetoad.livejournal.com]

(Though, easily fixed if the senate just enforced their own rules that say commission chairs can only talk on matters relevant to their commission)

[codetoad.livejournal.com]

Also, while I'm not sure on Lloyd's position on such issues, the senate recently voted to allow commission chairs to leave meetings if they wish -- far from not allowing them at the table.

[kelleydoodle.livejournal.com]

"what ho" is kind of like "what's up", but more like if you hear a noise at three in the morning, or you see something on the horizon. "what ho!"


linguistics is COOL.

what ho!

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

I also often use it like 'how bout them apples?" kinda thing. Like... "thats what she said... what ho!"

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

Though he HAS unequivically stated that he's interested in banning the Chief Justice from even entering the senate room.

[codetoad.livejournal.com]

What about reading minutes online? How about banning the President from entering the room? Caliph could, after all, attempt to intimidate the Senate.

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

but then again, there IS precedent that the Chief Justice has used his presence in the Senate room to unfairly affect deliberations through use of jedi mind tricks...

[littlenick.livejournal.com]

well, I figure when supporting 27,000 students...having six more voices available never really hurts.

[littlenick.livejournal.com]

Although they are allowed to stay,
it makes a bold statement about how much
the senate values the opinions of commission chairs.

But yeah, I agree that their opinions should be limitted to their area of expertise.

[codetoad.livejournal.com]

No, I don't think it makes a "bold statement." A couple of commission chairs would rather not stay for hours on end to debate issues they are not allowed to vote on. All this does is allow them the priviledge of leaving if they don't want to be there.

If their commission didn't see it and it has nothing to do with their commission I don't see why they should be forced to sit there as the senate talks about something. There are a couple of activity-heavy commissions that do not see any legislation, such as GASC, that probably would leave sometimes to, say, sleep or eat or go do homework..

[revchad.livejournal.com]

but do you want your attendence to be mandatory just to add another voice?