Various Things

[aggienaut]

   Blah. Several random things from Wednesday:


   In English today we "workshopped" the teacher's story. With all do respect I think she was going for that "shock writing" that repressed people like to experiment with in HS... you know where they write shockingly vulger or profane things and people don't want to look liek they are prudes so they say its good writing? Yea, man, the story was just about 13 year old lesbians. And aside from the fact that they talked about and did some shocking things and it was discussed it disturbing detail, I just don't see a story there.
   We met in the usual room but then went outside to discuss it in the grass. What I thought was really cool was that the only two guys in the class who I think are decent writers, whom I usually sit across the room from just because, waited for me outside and the three of us walked over there and sat together -- and we are three TOTALLY different people, so I feel like we're just united by the lameness of everyone in the class. So yea, I felt elite that we united like that - I'm part of the triumverate.


   I got my favorite tie back from Aimee today via the postal service. No not the snail tie, this one is narrow and black, it appears to have been made out of a dickies pant leg or something, serious. I found it in the back of The Brick, my eurovan krismobile, after drivign all my friends to a show in San Diego the night before, one day last summer. Admittedly I feel slightly sad to get it back... she's giving it back, what does that mean? At least she still has my belt too. (=
   When I called her to thank her for it yesterday her mom said "Aimee is a good christian girl now, she's at church," in a voice like I was a bad man for not being at church myself at that very moment (7pm, Wednesday??). Of course I was like "nooooooooooooo what has happened to aiimeeee???" She called me later though and clarified that she only went to make her mom happy and she's still the good little agnostic girl we all know and love.


   And speaking of such, I was in Woodstocks Pizza, having just finished a pint of guinness, wearing the aforementioned black tie, and my Pedro the Lion shirt, when this girl is like "are you christian?" and I'm like "uhhhh I'm agnostic" and she's like "well thats a christian shirt" and I'm like "uh, the singer guy is religious but that barely affects the music" and she's like "barely!?" all incrediously. ::sigh:: its true, The Pedro guy is all crazy jesus-freak style, and that breaks my heart, but I've only seen overt religious messeges in one of their songs. grrawr damn prods. xagnosticxcorex <3


[18:43:25] Snail of DEATH: the invention of ramen revolutionized college I swear
[18:43:35] Snail of DEATH: I can't imagine college sans ramen
[18:44:19] vannybodanny: haha
[18:44:30] vannybodanny: I have to say it is one of the best inventions EVER
[18:45:06] Snail of DEATH: the inventor should be like
[18:45:13] Snail of DEATH: on the back of $1 bills or somethin
[18:45:26] vannybodanny: hahaha
[18:45:37] Snail of DEATH: ::snicker::
[18:45:41] Snail of DEATH: and easy mac
[18:45:48] Snail of DEATH: on the $2


Kris Fricke: I decided I'm going to become a professional moderator.
Kris Fricke: ...And live a life of moderation
Lisa Gaines: YOU, moderation?? When I MET You you were on your 13th shot and keeping a tally on your arm!

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   Remember when I declared myself straight edge? Hm this entry also includes another MUN conference, and a significant historic reference to Kristy, current star of many livejournal entries. (=


   <3 The Computer Labs (see comments to last entry)

Comments

[hajenso.livejournal.com]

You know, Lisa Gaines is also all crazy jesus-freak style.

} kenji

On Religion

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

   there's religious people, like very very christian people, and then there are religious people, irrationally obsessive people for whom the whole concept has taken an unhealthy precedence over their life. Dave Bazan (AKA Pedro the Lion) is evidentally a more dedicated to the religion than generally thought necessary, as his repetoire of songs does include some with overt religious messeges, generally a taboo among professional musicians, but as far as I can tell he keeps it somewhat on the backburner even considering that; he lets the songs speak for themselves and doesn't go off evangelizing otherwise to my knowledge.
   Similarly Lisa Gaines may be a very good Christian, firmly believe its tenements and hold them dearly, but I wouldn't call her a "jesus-freak" either. I am good friends with her and it rarely comes up. Considering I'm the president of the Agnostic and Atheist Student Assn here on campus, ie VERY agnostic, there is significance in that. I do not believe Miss Gaines has an unhealthy religious mentality.
   In contrast however to the two aforementioned, the girl who confronted me about the Pedro the Lion shirt I suspect merely from that short encounter to have a less than optimal grip on reality. From her utter disbelief that I could see Mr Bazan as anythign other than the one word description of CHRISTIAN, indicated that (A) most significantly she thinks that "christian" IS an all important one word description of a person which can make or break that person entirely, (B) she probably heard about Pedro through some church group which portrayed him in a highly propagandhized and glowing picture of the uberchristian evangalizing idol they should all hold dear and admire.

Re: On Religion

[hajenso.livejournal.com]

Okay. I guess it's just a question of what you think is healthy. I suggest that the fact that Lisa doesn't bring up religion with you very much may not be because she's less "jesus-freak" than, say, Dave Bazan, but because she has more misgivings about the possible effects of being too outspoken. Based on as much of Dave Bazan's own words as I've read, it seems to me that if he can be called "jesus-freak", Lisa is as much of one internally whether she shows it or not, and means to be. But maybe you were only talking about externally anyway.

} kenji

Re: On Religion

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

   Well of course "jesus freak" is an undefined term that anyone can define for themselves, but I think the point in my reference in my livejournal, the source of my angst was at the sentiment expressed by That Girl that whether or not I was Christian was the all important determinant as to whether or not I should like a certain group that is or isn't Christian. And that I'd like to retain as my thesis in this discussion.

   There are People to whom there are Christians and Non-Christians,
   There are People to whom there are christians and a great many other people besides
   There are People to whom there are Catholics and Protestants and maybe some other religions besides...
   There are People to whom there are all kinds of religions and some of them are Christian...

   My complain reiterated, is against those to whom whether or not one is Christian is the only important descriptor (or at least the vastly most significant one). I don't know, I guess the utter disdain expressed in the voice of the girl can't really be expressed here, but I was quite offended by it.

[supernovastar16.livejournal.com]

hmmm i just noticed "current music"
the [freaking awesome] postal service
yes, thank you
i know good music!
emo kids to the max
for sure
<3

[citizene.livejournal.com]

Last time Pedro The Lion played Capitol Garage, Dave let people ask random questions between songs. A girl asked him directly about his "relationship with God" and how that affected his music/songwriting. He basically refused to answer the question, saying that he'd rather let the music speak for itself. Actually, that's how he answered every question... point being... you get the point.

It bugs me when fools get in my face about my beliefs. Agnosticism is just as valid a belief system as any other, even if it is a minority in the USA.