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   So the so-called "White House Beer Summit" occurred today. As a beer commentator I would of course be remiss not to offer some analysis on this.

   However, it appears a number of different political commentary blogs have already thoroughly analyzed it, so instead I'll just point you to the best of those that I have found.

   The basic breakdown is this. Beer choices:

Barack Obama Bud Light
Sgt. Crowley Blue Moon
Professor Gates Red Stripe


   For a summit on racial undertones, the choices were actually rather unfortunate. Red Stripe is a Jamaican lager, Jamaica being a country of almost entirely black population. Blue Moon, a product of the Coors brewing company, is a Belgian Ale ... specifically a Belgian White Ale. Hrmmmmmm oops.

   Anyway, the above linked more thorough review is worth the read in my opinion.


   There was also another one that didn't really say anything new except it had Gates' second choice (Beck's) and analysis of that ("Either way, while both in the lager/pilsner/watery camp, these beers exist at the polar ends of the brand spectrum, suggesting a bifurcated sense of self ... Having trouble choosing between a Red Stripe and a Beck's is like looking up from a menu and saying to the waiter, "I can't decide between the jerk chicken or the bratwurst." Or, in Professor Gates' case, I can't decide whether to politely ask you to leave my house, or threaten to blitzkrieg your career.")


   [livejournal.com profile] furzicle brought up another good point though. Upon hearing of this upcoming summit the heads of the various beer companies must have looked at eachother and said "holy shit there hasn't been so prominent a drinking of a few cold ones in this country in decades! We NEED to make sure it's OUR drink they're drinking!" So in rushes the beer lobby all up in everyone involved's business ... and voila Budweiser and Coors are each there.


Beer Summits: They Can Work For YOU
   Actually, long before today's famous incident, I was already making use of the political beer summit. Back in my student government days when I was the Chief Justice of the Associated Students of UC Davis (ASUCD was no small potatoe, they had a $9.8 million dollar budget!) I twice used "I'll buy you a beer" to diffuse major political tensions (such as when Senator Roy tried to impeach me!), and I distinctly remember telling my successor about the tactic's usefulness.

Date: 2009-07-31 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lotjeisgraaf.livejournal.com
As a Belgian, I have to say ... Bud Light? Come on now, that's not a beer. I can't comment on the other two :-p

Bud Light

Date: 2009-07-31 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
I actually had a bud light not too long ago for the first time in ages, and I was astounded by how much it resembled water. In taste, consistency, mouthfeel, etc... I think it really and truly is barely more than beer flavoured water. It's the beer for people who don't really like beer I guess.

Date: 2009-07-31 05:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-kosmos.livejournal.com
I was really disappointed to learn that Obama drinks Bud Light. He's got such great taste otherwise.

Date: 2009-07-31 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
I doubt he habitually does -- I think he was just trying way too hard to drink the working man's beer d:

Date: 2009-07-31 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] witchofthedogs.livejournal.com
I heard it referred to on NPR today as the "White House Hops International."

I lol'ed.

Date: 2009-07-31 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miintikwa.livejournal.com
Bud Light?

Also, Prof. Gates supposedly actually drank Sam Adams.

Eeew to all of the above.

Sam Adams at the Beer Summit?

Date: 2009-07-31 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Also, Prof. Gates supposedly actually drank Sam Adams.


O RLY? Scandalous! Do you know specifically which Sam Adams offering?

Re: Sam Adams at the Beer Summit?

Date: 2009-07-31 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miintikwa.livejournal.com
I don't, sadly. I'd feel better about him if it was the Summer Ale, which I find more tolerable than the regular.

Sam Adams in general is better than Bud or Coors-- but neither of them hold a candle to Killians.

Re: Sam Adams at the Beer Summit?

Date: 2009-07-31 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nightspore.livejournal.com
But Sam Adams was a brewer and a patriot. And from Boston. I think Obama should have had the Sam Adams. If Hillary had joined them she could have had a Tsing-Tao: suck up to the Chinese. This post was great.

Re: Sam Adams at the Beer Summit?

Date: 2009-07-31 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miintikwa.livejournal.com
LOL! Good point!

Date: 2009-07-31 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
I'd have to agree with this. It's the top-selling beer in the world, or so I heard once. "Gee, I'm not too sure about that Obama character, but at least he drinks my beer! Can't be all that bad if he likes his Bud LIght!"

Date: 2009-07-31 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
I would have had them fly in a keg of Rahr Iron Thistle. (SRSLY, come to Texas and try it. It's only served three places on tap and they can't afford to bottle it.)

Re: Sam Adams at the Beer Summit?

Date: 2009-07-31 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
I agree, Sam Adams would have been a very excellent choice. Their beer really ain't that bad either. They're a large scale producer that still has some craft cred because they make a lot of experimental brews.

And lolz at the Tsing-Tao. ;D


Oh also Biden showed up and had some non-alcohol beer (is he a recovering alcoholic? a teetotaler?)

Date: 2009-07-31 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Where is it again? Fort Worth? I'm very intrigued about it.

Next time you come visit Dave you should bring me a bottle :D

Also Iron Thistle is a sweet name. What kind of beer is it?

Speaking as an Austin resident...

Date: 2009-07-31 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Wait, where are these places?

Date: 2009-07-31 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Ditto on the ridiculousness of Bud Light. That's a little sad.

On the OTHER hand, this whole thing is AWESOME. I cannot tell you how much it delights me that the FRONT PAGE NEWS is the president hanging out with some guys and having a beer and talking about race. That is just. So. Cool.

Date: 2009-07-31 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
Fort Worth, tiny little brewery. They can't afford to bottle it because it costs something like $35,000. So they just do a few kegs and send it to two bars in the immediate area, and then serve it at their Saturday tasting that they hold for two hours. The Rahr Brewery tasting is so much fun. $5 gets you three full glasses of whichever beers you want and you get to keep the glass. They only bring out one keg of the Iron Thistle for the second hour though because it's high in alcohol content and they don't want everyone getting completely smashed and then driving home. The keg is empty in just a few minutes so you have to catch it fast.

According to their site, Iron Thistle Scottish Ale got the 2009 National Grand Champion title for Scotch and Scottish Ales at the US Beer Tasting Championships. It's SO FREAKIN GOOD.

Re: Speaking as an Austin resident...

Date: 2009-07-31 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
Sadly, you can't really find Rahr outside of downtown Fort Worth. It's a tiny little brewery and they can't produce enough to even make it to the eastern reaches of Fort Worth, where I live. But they win all sorts of championships with their really tasty beer. Come up here sometime and go to their Saturday tasting. It's one of my favorite things to do in town.

Date: 2009-07-31 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
Seriously. It's like something Teddy Roosevelt would have done. Well, not talking about race, but the sitting down with beers and discussing some politics or some shit. Because he was a cool mofo like that.
Edited Date: 2009-07-31 04:00 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-31 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
The sad thing is people seriously think like that.

Date: 2009-07-31 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
That's politics for ya.

Date: 2009-07-31 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
If I'm ever in the Fort Worth area.... speaking of which my friend [livejournal.com profile] pavel_lishin lives around there, I should tell him to check it out.

Date: 2009-07-31 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
:D is it really? I manage to avoid most mainstream news sources so I don't see what's a headline or not.

Date: 2009-07-31 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
This cracked me up. I wish there was more to the story, like where this was taken. Maybe it was at the championship?

Date: 2009-07-31 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
NYTimes, front page, above the fold, big old color photo in the middle of the page. AWESOME.

Re: Speaking as an Austin resident...

Date: 2009-07-31 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
I just may do that. I haven't had an excuse to go up to Fort Worth in years, and honestly, I kinda miss it. I like the cut of its jib.

Re: Speaking as an Austin resident...

Date: 2009-07-31 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
http://www.rahrbrewery.com/

Every Saturday from 1-3pm. You'll see people from all walks of life there - hanging out, listening to music, and having a great time. I'm starting to build a nice collection of souvenir glasses. :)

I'd recommend taking the short tour because the Rahr story is pretty cool, but you might miss the one keg of Iron Thistle. I did. But they do serve it at the Flying Saucer in downtown Fort Worth and a lot of people tend to head over there after the tasting to get more of it.

Date: 2009-07-31 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Nice. (: A great day in history. :D

Date: 2009-07-31 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Yeah! I would like to see this trend continue. "Hey, here's this big crazy issue that's got a lot of people whipped up into a frenzy." "Hey, I know, let's sit down and talk about it like adults." BRILLIANT!

Also, I like that Biden tagged along. We were speculating on that this morning. "Hey, Barack? I, uh, heard you're having a little thing this evening, and, uh, I just wanted you to know that I've, uh, got some koozies if you need them. No? Uh, well, you know I've got some sweet REO Speedwagon tapes..."

Biden's Drinking Habits

Date: 2009-07-31 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
And apparently Biden had some non-alcoholic beverage. Is he a recovering alcoholic or a teetotaler or something?

Date: 2009-07-31 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
Okay, that just wins.

Re: Biden's Drinking Habits

Date: 2009-07-31 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Apparently so! From the hivemind:

"Negative impressions of drinking alcohol in the Biden and Finnegan families and in the neighborhood led to Joe Biden becoming a teetotaler.[7][21]"

Re: Speaking as an Austin resident...

Date: 2009-07-31 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Cool! Yeah, I'll add that to the list of tx roadtrips. Thanks!

I like this:

We no longer allow dogs - sorry.

I get the impression that there's a story there...

Date: 2009-07-31 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Well, Joe Biden *is* America's sweetheart.

By the way, not to sound weird or nothin', but I notice you've got basically a ton of random photos on your lj. Ever check out [livejournal.com profile] riotclitshave? She might be up your alley.

Date: 2009-07-31 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chandrielle.livejournal.com
Awesome, thanks! If you're into the random pictures thing, you should check out [livejournal.com profile] breadcamesliced as well.

Date: 2009-07-31 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Hey hey hey. She posts pictures she found on the internet -- I post pictures I took myself.

Re: Sam Adams at the Beer Summit?

Date: 2009-08-01 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heethen-crone.livejournal.com
Killians is brewed by Coors. given that, it's not bad.

Date: 2009-08-01 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heethen-crone.livejournal.com
I wonder if Profesor Gates drank the Sam Adams Imperial series. I don't much care for most of the Sam Adams line but that stuff is ....... wonderful. Unfortunately, it's a limited run and probably not even in the stores anymore. Bud Light? Bleach!

Sam Adams

Date: 2009-08-01 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Yes it is indeed good! I'd never even heard of an "imperial white" before that series. Yeah a lot of their more basic stuff is not top of the line, but I do respect Sam Adams because they do do creative things, such as the imperial line and they've done a number of other more "experimental" things (like create a tripplebock (as opposed to the more common dopplebock) ... which is much sought after because it is rare .. I've had the opportunity to try it ... it tastes EXACTLY like soy sauce!!!)

Date: 2009-08-02 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Oh, awesome! Thanks!

Date: 2009-08-02 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nationelectric.livejournal.com
Y'all should start a business!

Date: 2009-08-02 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
What sort of business?

Date: 2009-08-02 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Haha that's awesome. THAT's the kind of respect a keg should be treated with :D

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