Honey, and Webpage Problems and Podcast!!

[aggienaut]

   Now pretend for a moment I wasn't going on about my honey label last post and tell me which of these labels is best?


   In related news, normally I host my pictures on flickr but I was forced to actually use livejournal's own hosting because earlier today Flickr was acquired by some entity no one has ever heard of before (hugmug, or smugmug, or mugthug or something?) and very ominiously oh look now Flickr is quite entirely down. ):


   And in other other news, I made a podcast! Sort of. It's only seven minutes, where I think a podcast ought to be more like 20-30 minutes but hey I just wanted to get something up that's not too long and see how it does. I'm annowed because soundcloud automatically named my url "https://soundcloud.com/kris-fricke/," whereas I'd much prefer it to be "/beedev" (as in beedev.org), but even though I can find where I should be able to change it its for some reason not changing. I submitted a help ticket so hopefully it'll get sorted out and then the following link will be broken but for now you can listen to my seven minute introduction to my planned podcast series here!! (and if the url does get changed it would be this). Feedback appreciated! Thanks (:

Comments

[kitzune.livejournal.com]

From a designer perspective, the two labels on the right look the most professional. My number one choice is the design with the logo in the background.

[pondhopper.livejournal.com]

I like the Apiary labels but in a slightly larger font. Having a logo in the background that is actually visible is a plus.

I gotta question

[lsanderson.livejournal.com]

Where are these going to be sold?

The large, far right labels look great for a supermarket.

The Apiary labels look less great but perfect for any twee shop or fancy food store, but I repeat myself.

The label with the price printed on looks like a bad idea. I see versions with the $22 crossed out and a new price scribbled on. Plus the single font size makes it a muddle.

[bearshorty.livejournal.com]

The ones with big HONEY on the right look the best

[wpadmirer.livejournal.com]

I like the label of Ocean Road Honey, but that's because I'm older and can't see labels well in the grocery any more without my glasses. Which I find incredibly annoying. (I only wear reading glasses, and it's a pain to have to get them out when grocery shopping.)

I listened to your podcast and posted about it to Twitter. I think it's going to be very interesting!

[amethyst-witch.livejournal.com]

I agree :)

[thismaz.livejournal.com]

The one on the left is fine as long as it is being sold locally, probably by the beekeeper themselves. It is amateur and straightforward.
The middle ones look more professional and have a name that attracts the eye.
The ones on the right fit into the space in between.

I have no experience of listening to podcasts, so I can't really make any useful comments there. It is unfair to compare you to a professional radio presenter, but their voices have more variation in speed and pitch, I think? You sounded like you were reading a script?
One of the things I heard a radio presenter once say was the best advice she was ever given, was to smile as you begin to speak because it lightens the voice and makes you sound much more friendly. The smile comes across in the voice.

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[the-leewit.livejournal.com]

Agreed, wholly.

[the-leewit.livejournal.com]

Although I would go with "made by real bees" if you go with the left-hand one. I like the thought of honey-making as a partnership, but it invites the thousandth smart-alec comment of "what kind of blender do they use to get the bees so smooth, hur, hur, hur."

[ryl.livejournal.com]

I like the logo on the middle one and the text on the right side ones. The ones on the left made my eyebrow raise. Made with real bees? I was under the impression that honey was made from nectar by bees.

[nemophilist.livejournal.com]

I love the middle label! :)

[lifeinroseland.livejournal.com]

Great Ocean Road HONEY.

[lookfar.livejournal.com]

I like "The Apiary" on the label. To me it looks profesh and artisinal and not amateurish, which I think a lot of people are nervous of in food products. BTW, you might be interested in the part of this article about honey that was accidentally adulterated by the bees: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/23/the-maraschino-moguls-secret-life

[richaarde.livejournal.com]

Labels on the right look the best, but they feel like they are a bit too large for the container. Now that I’m looking at it again, that typeface wants to be just a little bolder.

Print the label graphics out on a letter-size sheet of paper, expanded so the graphics proportionally take up the whole sheet of paper. Then place the paper on the floor and try to read it from standing height. All of the large text should be legible, and all of the pictures should be easy to make out, from standing height. If not, make adjustments.

Also, I agree with what someone else said: take the price off the label. The shopkeeper does that.

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Yeah I used a size I had designed for the bigger containers and it looks a bit too big on the smaller ones.

Thats a good tip about printing it out and standing, thanks for that!

In re the shopkeeper does that about the price on the label, actually those containers were entirely labeled by the shopkeeper himself, so he DID do that. That guy just sells the shopkeeper honey in bulk and the shopkeeper printed out the labels. Hence he didn't put a lot of effort into his labels as one can tell.

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

The Apiary? Yeah I think I'll make hte logo darker on mine, which is the one on the far right. It actually has its logo under the writing on the front as well, but I think I made it just a little tooooo faint ;D

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

haha yeah I'll experiment with making my background logo a bit more visible (:

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Probably little local general stores in the area, which, because we are along tourism routes can actually move some rather twee goods. Haha I haven't heard the word twee in awhile thanks for reminding me of it (:

I really like the Apiary logo, though I feel it almost looks "too professional," I think in selling honey you kind of WANT to look like you're the guy next door really, not some slick corporate thing with a marketing department. I don't think they've gone that far but they're on the cusp of it, I think their name and everything does a really good job of being just this side of it.

The label with the price on it was just slapped together by the shop owner ;D

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

I think it would be cute (that is, "made BY real bees") as a little sticker pasted on the lid kind of sassily (:

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

(: (: those are miiine

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Awesome thanks! Haha no one else commenting to this entry commented on the podcast, just the honey, I'm going to have to make a separate entry I think! How'd you feel about the length? And/or how long should the actual episodes / entries / casts (/whatever you call units of podcast) be? I think it might be good to have the short intro since introduction isn't as interesting as the content and all, but I wonder how long the atual ones should be?

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Ah thanks that's useful advice! Yeah I wrote myself a script and pretty much read it word for word. A few times toward the end I lost my place but since I knew what I wanted to say I was able to go on without missing a beat until I found my place again. I should maybe do like I do when I'm making a presentation though, which is I just give myself just enough keywords to remind me what the next thing I was going to say is about without causing me to read a script.

Also that's good advice about the smile, thanks (:

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

ahaha ;)

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Yeah it's pretty good. I like their name too, they did a good job.

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

(: (:

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

yeah I think The Apiary has some good marketing.

Thanks for that I'll read that article (:

[furzicle.livejournal.com]

And let's not forget how miserable it is to be in the shower without your glasses, particularly at a friend's house, and you're squinting with water running down your face to read which container is body wash, which is conditioner, and which is actually shampoo. Can't they just dang MAKE THE PRINT LARGER? Who the heck showers with their glasses on????

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Haha I have never thought of this predicament.

Its interesting to note also how people on facebook, more likely to be viewing the picture small and on their phone, overwhelmingly voted for the label on the far right, ie, mine, whereas people on livejournal, probably viewing the image larger and on a computer, seem more inclined to vote for the middle one. I think its based on the size and visibility of the label, though also I suppose people on lj might be more "artsy" than usual and thus more inclined towards the Apiary label.

[wpadmirer.livejournal.com]

YES! This is why I generally take my own with me even when I visit friends. It's really not fun to use conditioner to wash your hair.

[yesididit2.livejournal.com]

I like the ones on the right. easy to read. I agree with above sentiments that your background picture is too faint/light. and that the labels are a tad large on the smaller sized tubs. maybe you could reduce the spacing between the print, rather than shrinking the whole label. that way you can still easily read the label.

and now that I've stared at it too long, the word "honey" looks funny to me.

[shygirl123.livejournal.com]

I like the label on the right.

[kishenehn.livejournal.com]

Hey, there ... I saw your post on a friending meme elsewhere, and was intrigued. :). Hope you don't mind my adding you.

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Aw thanks! Do you have a post in the friendzy?

[kishenehn.livejournal.com]

Nah, I've kind of given up doing those ... but nearly all my posts are public, so if you're curious it's pretty easy to figure out what I'm about.

Short version: middle-aged gay guy, lives in Montana with his dog, interested in history and the environment, spend summers living on a mountaintop working for the Forest Service. I'll probably cut down on the dog photos a bit now that summer is here. :)

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Haha oh working for the forest service sounds fun. I've recently discovered that Parks Victoria here has a lot of volunteer opportunities to participate in conservation surveys (as well as things as varied as track maintenance, weeding, and visitor information, but I'm not as excited about those things) so I occasionally get to go out and count sea snails or possums or what have you (:

Welcome!

[kishenehn.livejournal.com]

Thanks! Look forward to getting to know you. :)

My Forest Service gig involves staffing a fire lookout tower ... I did it as a volunteer in the past, and they wanted to hire me as a "real" employee this summer. Slight possibility of doing some firefighting, as well. My past towers were reachable only by backpacking, but this year's post actually has a road to the top of the mountain -- won't be quite the same.

Only been to your part of the world once, but it was a great trip -- just cut across the northern part of Victoria in my travels:

https://kishenehn.livejournal.com/311377.html

[emo-snal.livejournal.com]

Oh that sounds interesting! Cool to get hired to do it! (:

I also volunteer with the local fire brigade here, did an overnight shift fighting a nearby brushfire just a few weeks back.

[kk1raven.livejournal.com]

Smugmug isn't an entity that no one has ever heard of. It is a well-regarded and very reliable photo-hosting site. Since it is a site that offers paid services, it tends to be better known amongst professional and serious photographers rather than people who want a place to upload a few photos from their phones here and there. You're almost certainly going to be better off having them own Flickr than having Yahoo/Oath/Verizon own them. (Read Yahoo's new privacy agreement if you don't know why many people are concerned about dealing with them.)