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   Yesterday Jamie & I saw the Bourne Ultimatum. I thought the movie was excellent...

   It was certainly action packed thats for sure! The very definition of "edge-of-your seat."
   I felt like it pushed implausibility a little more than the preceding Bourne movies however, and went slighty in more along a Hollywood action movie cliche oriented direction. For example, I was terrified they were going to make that CIA agent girl his ex-girlfriend from before he was brainwashed, and they still basically left that pretty strongly implied. I wouldn't have minded if they got together in the end, cliche as that would be, but making her his ex-girlfriend is just too much.
   Other serious plausibility problems included how the hell did Bourne, "the asset," and the girl keep track of eachother as they ran around inside, outside, and on top of buildings in Tangiers? That really pushed my willing suspension of disbelief. And then from Tangiers I feel like there was a sudden plot-wormhole and suddenly everyone is in New York and Bourne knows the blonde CIA woman?!
   Another thing I would have liked to have seen is more hints at how the other "assets" are just like Bourne. The guy not shooting him in the end was the lamest way they could have done it I think -- what I would have really liked to see is the other asset also tripping out as he ran through the hospital rooms where he too presumably got indoctrinated.
   Also, while its expected that the CIA goons would run around and get knocked off like stormtroopers, I think it would have been funny if towards the end some of them showed a little fear and acknowledged that they must have been aware that so far everyone else who went up against Bourne got turned into a human pretzel. I mean seriously, they had to have had a hundred agents hospitalized by the end -- there's no way agents would still be running at him thinking they were gonna be the one not to be turned into a pretzel.

   And looking at wikipedia I realize that its based on a series of novels! Now I want to read them...

Date: 2007-08-22 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pavel-lishin.livejournal.com
How did you feel about their choice of Michael J. Fox as cameraman?

Date: 2007-08-22 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
Hm? Explain.


I did think it was interesting that a lot of shots were shot as if from a hand-held camera (all waving about a bit) where it obviously wasn't intended to be from any particular persons point-of-view or anything (ie, two people are talking and teh camera appears to be hand-held at some odd angle)

Date: 2007-08-22 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pavel-lishin.livejournal.com
The fucking camera was shaking the entire time. He would be calmly walking across the parking lot, while I would be looking around to check if stuff was falling off buildings, because I thought there might be an earthquake in the movie that he's just ignoring because he's a badass.

I was seriously wondering if I was going to vomit by the time he called the blonde woman.

Date: 2007-08-22 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
Yeah the hand-held-camera thing. Quite odd.

Randomly...

Date: 2007-08-23 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stealingjoy.livejournal.com
He knew Pamela Landy from the second film since she was hunting him.

You're right about them keeping track through Tangiers, but Bourne jumping through windows made me happy enough to forget about that.

I was immensely satisfied that Nikki didn't end up being with him. It was clear from the scene where she cut and dyed her hair that they were alluding to Marie, but it showed that Bourne still wasn't over Marie and that he wasn't just another James Bond womanizing type.

Also, the books are pretty much shit. However, their stories are 98% different if you really do want more Bourne action. The first isn't so bad, but the second was one of the worst books I've ever read.

Re: Randomly...

Date: 2007-08-23 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
But wikipedia says the Bourne novel series was voted second-best spy novel of all time! (by some magazine)

I suspected the Pam Landy thing had to be something carried over from the previous film, but they really didn't fill in that background (and should have). Conversely, much of the very beginning was them filling in details that I did remember.


But yeah altogether I really liked it and really like the series. Definitely my favourite action series.


Also, hi! Who are you?

Re: Randomly...

Date: 2007-08-26 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stealingjoy.livejournal.com
Whoops, I forgot all about replying here.

If that magazine really thinks the Bourne books are the second-best spy series of all time, that only says bad things about the spy genre. Geez. The Spy Who Came in From the Cold is a really good spy book though, if you're looking for one. It's not at all like Bourne, though. More literary.

I was just some random stranger browsing by. We have blueashes as a mutual friend.

Re: Randomly...

Date: 2007-08-26 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
Ah. Yeah I totally heart mars bars ([livejournal.com profile] blueashes).

In unrelated news, today my dad had the Moby Dick book-on-cd going in his car when we went out to brunch, and man does that book go on some random tangents. If what I heard is representative of it I don't think I could bare to actually read it.

Date: 2007-08-29 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eatrice.livejournal.com
yesterday Jamie and I had coffee at starbucks.

Date: 2007-08-29 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
Haha your comment just reminded me to call dear Jamiesocks. Hopefully we'll do coffee or something later this week.

Date: 2007-08-29 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eatrice.livejournal.com
I'm going to bible study at her house tonight.
and I saw bourn ultimatum and i thought it rocked.

maybe we are bound to run into eachother again soemtime.

Date: 2007-08-29 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
Haha maybe. That was so random seeing you in Court that one time!!

Tell Jamie-toes I say hi!

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