Sleuthing About
Feb. 16th, 2010 07:05 am People often ask me what exactly a beekeeper does, other than "keep bees in boxes*." The answer to this is always a bit "euhh..." because of the very wide variety of different things one must do.
Today I did a bit of sleuthing. I checked up on the hives and did a more thorough inspection into many of them than I'd done in awhile. In so doing, I discovered several hives that had failed. This is rather to be expected this time of year.
But one wants to know WHY. This can be difficult to determine. There's two things one can relatively easily figure out: (A) if there is absolutely no honey stores and the bees all look like their last action was to each crawl deep into a cell in search of a last drop of nourishment, they probably starved; and (B) if there are no bees at all they have disappeared and you might have the infamous colony collapse disorder. The popular imagination seems to have utterly failed to grasp that the disappearance referred to is quite literal. At the fair I got afflicted with many people saying "oh yeah the bees are disappearing, I see dead ones around my house all the time!" Dead bees =/= disappeared bees!
If a hive is utterly overrun with wasps or ants or wax moths or hive beetles, these critters MAY have overrun the hive, but they might ALSO have moved in once the bees were all already dead or mostly dead.
If there is a large clump of dead bees on the bottom of the hive, some kind of disease killed them. There are a few other distinctive signs of specific diseases.
Sometimes I'll open up a hive and know it is failed before I even peer inside it, because there is moisture on the underside of the topboard. Bees carefully control the humidity of their hives and are very good at it, any condensation in there means the hive must surely have failed.
Today, however, nearly all the failed hives upon opening looked like a weak hive that was simply frozen in time. The bees were all exactly where they'd be, in positions they'd be in, if they were alive, however they were not moving. Many of them didn't even look dead. A dead bee somehow looks very dead. These bees still looked lively and fluffy. I even very carefully lifted one into my hand and prodded it in various ways. It didn't seem to even have rigor mortis, it seemed to be in just as much working order as a live bee ... except it was dead. That is, it made utterly not a twitch of movement of its own. I've never seen such a thing. Dead bees usually look quite dead to me.
Sometimes there are still just a tiny handful of live bees hanging out on an otherwise failed hive. This always strikes me as kind of sad. The last doomed survivors left wandering hopelessly in the ruins that once were their home.
I found four bees on a a topboard (lid) that had been left from a failed hive that had been removed last week. Were these survivors from THAT hive? It's almost entirely beyond belief that there'd still be survivors, but I was able to scoop these definitely alive (but feeble) bees into my hand. Normally only residual bees put up with such monkey business without flying away. I carried them into the truck cab and put them on my sweater (they were not to be found later though).
In conclusion... I have no idea why these hives failed. Probably a disease (Dave thinks they froze but people successfully keep bees in MUCH colder places this). Unfortunately medicating bees ALSO tends to weaken them so it's not one wants to do in the middle of winter. I think for now we just gotta hope for the best and be optimistic that our bees that survive will be stronger bees for it. (And altogether our losses aren't that bad anyway, relatively speaking).
* or rather keep bees in boxes alive and flourishing, since they are always free to leave

I also did some relatively unrelated sleuthing while I was up there. You may or may not recall I posted the above picture a few months ago, of a bell hanging near where we keep the bees. At the time I didn't think terribly much of it other than that it was a relatively old bell. Heck it didn't even really click in my brain that the number that can be clearly read on it reads 1810 which is a damn long time ago.. 200 years!!!!
But one day while I was on the Lady Washington polishing the bell in the morning something suddenly dawned on me. The bell pictured above very very closely resembles all the ship's bells I've seen. They're all right around that exact size, made of bronze (which this one appears to be, judging by the green rust)... suddenly I began to wonder, was that a ship's bell hanging in that forest by my bees???
Furthermore I instantly remembered something else, there had been several CANNON barrels lying in the grass by the graveyard in the forest. That's right, lying in the grass, much overgrown, there had clearly been several very real (maybe not authentic from ye days of cannons but at least pretty old functional looking replicas) rusty cannon barrels. These plus the bell made me wonder, was there some major nautical connection to the forest??
At the time I didn't know the year on the bell off hand, but if the bell is actually from 1810, and from the same place as the cannons, they may very well be honest-to-goodness authentic cannons.
So I'd been anxious to investigate further. The last few times I been up there I've been with Dave or another coworker, and didn't want to drag them around on my random adventure. Yesterday though I was finally up there by myself.
There was evidence, however, that other people were in the vicinity, presumably family or friends of the owner, so I didn't want to go poke around the graveyard -- being at the far side of the meadow I'd be visible over there from quite a distance about and I figure they might be sensitive about that.
But the bell is in a location quite close to some of the bees where it's easy to sneak a peak. I was able to get over there today and eagerly examine it to see if there was perhaps a ship's name emblazoned on it.
Couldn't find a ship's name, but the side opposite the "1810" has "MEXICO" on it. Mexico, incidentally, was founded in 1810. A bell commissioned to celebrate Mexican independence then? I don't know what a 200 year old brass bell is supposed to look like but this one certainly looks pretty old.
And in other news, while researching the detective entry (yeah I looked up everything I could find on the internet about classic detective noir) I came across this utterly hilarious webcomic. It was actually quite an unfortunate discovery as it probably absorbed at least two hours of time I should have been working on the entry, altogether. But it had me laughing out loud heartily on numerous occasions. It's delightfully wacky and brilliant and most interestingly of all, ruthlessly transcends space and time (one of my favourite activities). And brings us one of the most epic images ever to grace a screen.
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Date: 2010-02-16 03:21 pm (UTC)Awesome find with that bell. There's this really cool, old graveyard near me and this big stone casket is adorned with a copper colored ball, when you read the inscription on the tomb it says its the final resting place of a soldier from the Spanish/Mexican War and the ball on top of the tomb is the actual cannon ball that killed the soldier.
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Date: 2010-02-16 03:36 pm (UTC)They're alive-looking, but dead?
You know the obvious joke that has to be made:
THEY'RE ZOMBEES.
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Date: 2010-02-16 11:12 pm (UTC)T!
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Date: 2010-02-16 03:39 pm (UTC)Bees & Temperature
Date: 2010-02-16 08:00 pm (UTC)That said, they are obviously very particular about the temperature. Maintaining temperature presumably takes energy, and therefore any temperature changes will definitely effect the amount of energy the hive is dedicating to maintaining temperature.
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Date: 2010-02-16 09:31 pm (UTC)On the subject of beekeeping, have you seen the movie Ulee's Gold? Arguably Peter Fonda's last great role and a terrific movie about beekeeping and patience.
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Date: 2010-02-17 05:10 am (UTC)And as sad as it all is, I gotta say its REALLY fascinating!!
Now... what does someone have to barter to get good, fresh honey from you? You can make honey, I can make have winter-hats, scarves... what's the trade? :)
Lastly, its nice to hear about your awesome bell. That's totally something that I, too, would find fascinating and go look up whenever possible.
If you know the land owners (currently & historically) then that may very well provide you more info on the bell and why its there. Its neat either way!
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Date: 2010-02-17 05:47 am (UTC)I've been thinking about making an entry about the bee related barter system. Our bees are always kept in outlying areas, usually on land where there are also fruit trees and stuff. We usually pay our "rent" with honey, and the landowners usually in return give us some of their products. We always have thigns like bags of fresh avocados, tomatoes, eggs, even pecans coming in.
Our honey supply is running a bit short as it's been awhile since we harvested any (winter is not the season to take honey off). But hit me up when I start mentioning oodles of honey (:
Yeah I'm still fascinated by that bell! I'm dying to get a closer look at the cannons now!
I'm a bit concerned if I ask the landowner he'll wonder why I was wandering around, he seems a bit weird about that, but the bell is very close to my bees so it'd be easy to explain that I just had to go have a look.
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Date: 2010-02-17 07:50 am (UTC)Wow, I learned a few things about beekeeping today, thank you!
And I stole and re-posted that webcomic -- that is CLASSIC!
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Date: 2010-02-17 08:33 am (UTC)Bells and Cannon ...
Date: 2010-02-17 06:23 pm (UTC)The bit about the old bell and the cannon interests me; from reading your previous posts, I get the impression that you must be located somewhere near San Juan Capistrano or Dana Point in Orange County (didn't "The Pilgrim" used to be anchored at Dana Point for a while?)
It seems odd that somebody would leave a replica cannon just laying in the forest like that; it kind of made me wonder if the bell and cannon were salvage from some ship that either went on the rocks or was decommissioned in Dana Point Harbor ... or if maybe there was some connection to the mission in SJC (among other things, the SJC mission also included fortifications and barracks for troops to ward off the threat of "Injun" attacks.)
I think the date on the bell might post-date the period when the mission was active, so maybe its something leftover from the rancho period. Where the heck is the bee castle anyway? Somewhere off Ortega highway?
Re: Bells and Cannon ...
Date: 2010-02-17 07:40 pm (UTC)Yeah the bee yard is off Ortega, which of course connects to civilization at San Juan Cap. It really is quite mysterious, esp since it's NO WHERE NEAR THE SEA (well it ain't kansas but it's not close by orange county standards), so someone would have had to haul them up there. And of course even just 100 years ago that location would have been extremely remote. I don't know when Ortega highway itself was built but much more than a hundred or so years ago the area up there would have extremely remote. I think ranching was going on there for awhile but it would have been quite the undertaking bringing cannon up there!
So I suppose it's probably more likely that one of the preceding land owners in the last say fifty years or so relocated them there from somewhere else?
Anyway, as noted in the entry I just made, we might not be there much longer. Which means I might never find otu the answer!!
Ortega Highway ...
Date: 2010-02-17 08:25 pm (UTC)When I was in high school (circa 1971 - 74), there used to be a place just off the highway called "Ortega Hotsprings" (just before Casper's Park.) It basically consisted of a natural hot spring that fed a series of man-made pools. According to local legend, the pools were all that was left of an old resort that flourished off Ortega Highway back in the 1920s. As the story goes, the "Hollywood Elite" of the period used to travel to Ortega Hotsprings to get away from the city and soak their bones in the natural spa.
Ortega Hotsprings was and extremely popular party (i.e., "getting stoned")spot for highschoolers when I was young. I went up there a couple of times myself, but the place eventually became too widely known and was sort of taken over by outlaw-biker-types.
A friend of mine reported showing up there one afternoon with the intent of soaking in one of the ponds, only to find the entire series of ponds already occupied by naked bikers and their "old ladies", who let him know in no uncertain terms that if he valued his health, he better get the hell out of there and stay out.
I don't think we ever went out there again after that.
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Date: 2010-02-19 02:07 am (UTC)So you live around here somewhere I gather?
Re: Ortega Highway ...
Date: 2010-02-19 05:55 pm (UTC)My memory is somewhat foggy about the exact location, but I think it was just across the street from a small campground or roadside community, and to get there, you parked by the road, climbed a small embankment and waded through some brush and there it was. Now that I think about it, I think somebody bought the place in the late 80s/early 90s and briefly tried to ressurect it as a health spa, but then quickly went bankrupt. That would probably explain the barbed wire.
I grew up in the city of Orange, and I live in Mission Viejo now (a nice place to raise a family, but it has no heart, soul or sense of community.)
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Date: 2010-02-20 09:05 pm (UTC)2. The bell, wow, what a discovery and what amazing sleuthing. Surely there is a university department that could take it to the next step, with your assistance, of course.
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