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Speaking of beehives in a tree, this is also not the same kind of tree the beehive-in-a-tree described earlier was in, but it IS a beehive in a tree.



Uploaded a few pictures yesterday from the roadtrip across Tanzania, which I also unfortunately wrote a hurried entry about while still out in the field.

Date: 2015-01-16 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaishin108.livejournal.com
What a trip you are on! I am really loving all the photos, thank you for posting!

Date: 2015-01-16 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Thanks for commenting! (:

Date: 2015-01-16 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artkouros.livejournal.com
So - how do they get the hives down for honey?

Date: 2015-01-17 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
They apparently climb up (or rather, hire some young boy to climb up, cause some of those limbs don't look like they'd support a grown man!), attach a rope, and lower it down. That's what we did the one time I did it (and it's done at night remember). I was kind surprised they don't have a permanent rope going over a branch and coming down, but maybe that would make it to easy for just anyone to get to their hives? /:

Date: 2015-01-17 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artkouros.livejournal.com
Yes, I can see small boys doing it. My sister in Dallas keeps bees, but not so adventurously.

Date: 2015-01-19 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Lol yeah if someone kept bees that way in the US everyone would be very confused.

Date: 2015-01-16 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ani-mama.livejournal.com
Very cool! I really enjoyed your writeup of the roadtrip as well. Who knew there were so many factions in beekeeping! We are only on year two of the typical US style bee hive, so it is very interesting to hear about how people are doing it elsewhere.

Date: 2015-01-17 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, there's factions. It's ridiculous. Here in Orange County we have the Orange County Beekeepers Association and the Beekeepers Association of Orange County (separate organization, they don't talk to us). In Los Angeles County there's the Los Angeles County Beekeepers Association and the Beekeepers Association of Southern California (which despite the name is smaller in scope and membership than our club (the OCBA), but has a number of memers who are active in our club too). When I was working in the Egyptian town of Tanta for a project I was told there were two beekeepers associations there who weren't on good terms and I'd have to do separate presentations for both of them and I just had to laugh.

I think part of it is that beekeeping is often a solitary profession for people that would rather play with bees than work closely with another human, so you get some abrasive personalities involved. Also some wingnuts. I can tell you that the split between the OCBA and the BAOC was because some members wanted to heavily focus on profiting from swarm catching, and when we wouldnt' let them use the club to insure their swarm catching ventures and voted them out of office they stomped off to create the BAOC. d:

Date: 2015-01-16 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenine2.livejournal.com
I am really enjoying your photojournals. The beehives are fascinating!

Date: 2015-01-17 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Thanks! (: I think so too (:

Date: 2015-01-16 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaceyjane.livejournal.com
Wow! So cool!

Date: 2015-01-17 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Thanks (:

Date: 2015-01-16 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcmurphy79.livejournal.com
I love this. Bees are brilliant.

Date: 2015-01-17 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
They are aren't they! :D

Date: 2015-01-16 07:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] twicet.livejournal.com
That's the first time I have seen hives in trees, do they have to take them done very often to get the honey?

Date: 2015-01-16 08:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kurikuribebi
This is what I was wondering! How does this work?

Date: 2015-01-17 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
If you'll excuse me for cut pasting the comment I just made to the above comment, here's my answer (:

No they pretty much wait until they're pretty sure it's most likely full (by time of year, amount of bee activity), and then go in at night, drive all the bees out with fire and smoke, and harvest the comb. Modern methods can significantly improve on this. Though it might actually be more cost effective on the small scale this way considering the costs of this are very minimal ... but for more than casual beekeeping there are better ways.

They apparently climb up (or rather, hire some young boy to climb up, cause some of those limbs don't look like they'd support a grown man!), attach a rope, and lower it down. That's what we did the one time I did it (and it's done at night remember). I was kind surprised they don't have a permanent rope going over a branch and coming down, but maybe that would make it to easy for just anyone to get to their hives? /:

Date: 2015-01-17 12:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kurikuribebi
Sorry! I thought I wrote my comment as a reply to the comment above so you'd only have to answer once! Thank you for taking the time to answer again though.

Date: 2015-01-17 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
No they pretty much wait until they're pretty sure it's most likely full (by time of year, amount of bee activity), and then go in at night, drive all the bees out with fire and smoke, and harvest the comb. Modern methods can significantly improve on this. Though it might actually be more cost effective on the small scale this way considering the costs of this are very minimal ... but for more than casual beekeeping there are better ways.

They apparently climb up (or rather, hire some young boy to climb up, cause some of those limbs don't look like they'd support a grown man!), attach a rope, and lower it down. That's what we did the one time I did it (and it's done at night remember). I was kind surprised they don't have a permanent rope going over a branch and coming down, but maybe that would make it to easy for just anyone to get to their hives? /:

Date: 2015-01-17 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hawk-soaring.livejournal.com
That is totally cool.

Date: 2015-01-17 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] changeling72.livejournal.com
They look so odd!

Date: 2015-01-19 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
its like giant square christmas ornaments!

Date: 2015-01-22 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pundigrion.livejournal.com
Haha, that's what I was thinking too!

Date: 2015-01-17 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slunickomoje.livejournal.com
Those are incredible! I've never seen hives like those!

Date: 2015-01-19 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
well, now you have! :D

Date: 2015-01-19 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Thanks (:

Date: 2015-01-21 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sallycandance.livejournal.com
Question that's randomly off-topic: During your travels, have you ever come across a Waldorf or Steiner school? I know there's quite a few all across Africa and was wondering if you had seen one.

Date: 2015-01-21 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Hmmmm no can't say I've noticed any, but then again I haven't been hangin around many schools other than ones that consist of a blackboard tacked to a mud brick wall. d:

Date: 2015-01-21 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sallycandance.livejournal.com
Yup, that would be the ones. I didn't know there were other schools than the described above (except in the big cities). It's all a bit rudimentary out in the bush. I just know about them because we often get asked to go down there and teach or teach the teachers. I'm pondering of doing it at the moment...

Date: 2015-01-21 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Oh I didn't know there was a name for them. Anyway, I'm sure it would be fun! (:

Here's the only picture I have of such a school:

Date: 2015-01-21 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sallycandance.livejournal.com
Aw!

Waldorf schools are a certain type of schools as the teachers educate slightly differently. So not every school is a Waldorf school. This one (though not in the bush) for example is: http://www.villagewaldorfschool.org.za/

Date: 2015-01-22 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pundigrion.livejournal.com
I looked into getting a hive a few years ago year and got all excited about top bar plans....and then found out the cost of getting a nuc. Wowza!

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