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   This morning I recieved the resignation of a Court member and forwarded it to ASUCD Government Advisor and manifestation of all that is evil, Vicky Swett, and the head of the Student Government Administrative Office. This evening I had this response from Swett:

   When there is a resignation from a court member you not only need to e-mail me but the president and senate pro tem as well. As you have been told several times from Sara and myself the president needs to be informed so resignations since it is her appointment. Kristin, my office coordinator, doesn't have anything to do with the process. Also, in the future when there is a case before the court it is your responsibility to make copies of all documentations for the court members.
   Lastly, I had told you once before if you were going to post fliers notifying the student body of a court hearing that you needed me to authorize the posting of the fliers. As of today I have not authorized for any fliers to be posted for this court hearing. Did you post, and if so I want a copy of that flier?

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Vicki Swett
ASUCD Advisor



   Careful not to be too "saucy," I sent back the following response:

To: ASUCD Government Advisor
CC: ASUCD President, Senate President Pro Tempore, Student Court Alternate Presiding Member

A - 1) My impression, what I've been firmly told by all government officers, and what I've seen of the legal writings on the subject, is that personnel matters are not to be discussed with anyone who is not strictly relevant. The administrative office which you oversee keeps the personnel records of the Court, therefore it was of relevance that the administrative office be notified.

2) I was going to inform the President of the vacancy as soon as the administrative office had verified processing of the resignation. Beyond the fact of an opening the personal details of the resignation are not relevant to the Presidents office. There is even less reason to notify the Senate of the instance.


B) Its my understanding that it IS the current policy of the SGAO to expect me to make all copies of the relevant material. I asked the SGAO if they would reevaluate this policy for the convenience of all involved. It is not my impression that requesting things of SGAO was condemnable.

1) The documents must be readily available to the Plaintiff(s) and Defendant(s) of cases. I have classes, other considerations, and transportation limitations, expecting me to readily to provide the materials to all parties in a case is not feasible. The SGAO needs to be able to provide copies for this purpose.

2) The alternative is to have myself personally use the SGAO copying equipment, or do it elsewhere and get reimbursed for my expenditures. It would be more convenient for everyone involved if the SGAO did this.

3) It was my impression that the purpose of the Student Government Administrative Office was to do the administrative tasks necessary to process ASUCD paperwork and bureaucracy. It is my impression that the task at hand firmly falls under this. If this is a serious difference of opinion for you I'd love to go over their Administrative Plan with you.


C) Nowhere in the by-laws does it say I need to get the ASUCD Advisor's permission to post flyers. I go by the by-laws. I do not believe other ASUCD organs are required to get your permission to conduct such mundane activities. The impression I got in discussing the subject with you was merely that if I ran things passed you you would then be able to reimburse my expenses. I conduct activity far beyond the hours during which you are available, and the flyers were posted at such a time. I have not yet exceded my 200 free copies from the computer labs so was not concerned about reimbursement.

1) Flyers were posted on a number of campus buildings. I will gladly find you a copy.


Kris Fricke
Chairman, ASUCD Student Court
(530)574-3599

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   I wanted to add D) It is my understanding that you are not accustomed to working with a functional Court. All these recent disagreements relate not to an unprofessional or incompetent court but disconcordent opinions of the administrative responsibilities of the Court. Fortunately none of these differences of opinion have even prevented anything from being done this time so I ask that you bear with us and be receptive to the new competencies of the previously unfunctional Court.
   Kristy thought that was too saucey though so I left it out.


   Anyway, what do the rest of you think? Is she an evil troll? Is she completely right and I'm just an insolent fool? Was I too saucey / not saucy enough? Feedback, now.

Date: 2003-12-04 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colleeniebeenie.livejournal.com
Personally, I love your saucyness. I happen to think it is justifiable as Miss Swett was even more saucy than you. However, I think you're right in being careful with the "saucy-factor" since apparently every little thing you say can and quite possibly will be used against you as ASUCD activity in the past couple of weeks has indicated. I am glad you are part of the student government and actually tell is like it is unlike many others. Well done.

Colleen, you are strongsauce

Date: 2003-12-04 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] basicallyasap.livejournal.com
"saucy-factor"... Iloveit!

saucy factor

Date: 2003-12-04 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
Thanks. Yea I think in this instance I've not said ANYTHING "unnecessarily saucy," all my points are clearly justified and if this comes up I think it'd hurt her more than me.

Date: 2003-12-04 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelleydoodle.livejournal.com
total evil troll. you were not saucy enough. there should be more sarcastic jabs in there, fo sho. you're my fiancee, kris. MORE SAUCY.

<3.

Date: 2003-12-04 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pavelthegeek.livejournal.com
uber troll!

Not like that Sara Henry, though, she's a bitch

Date: 2003-12-04 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
hehe one of these days man.. one of these days Sara is gonna catch you alone in a hallway or something and have at you.

Date: 2003-12-04 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pavelthegeek.livejournal.com
She's pretty cute, I'd do her :)

Date: 2003-12-04 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shid.livejournal.com
I love your RE emails. So saucy.

Good to leave it out, there's no need to continue mentioning the subject- they've been humiliated.

Date: 2003-12-04 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obisan69.livejournal.com
So how long until that email comes up in a Senate meeting? :)

I think it had just the right level of saucy-ness. I am always amazed at how well spoken professional you can be with this nonsense... but maybe that's just because I'm on the loud and crass side. You are correct, other parts of ASUCD do not have to have her approval to post fliers (at least we don't). And yesterday, Pam requested SGAO to photocopy a set of the personnel applications for each person on the hiring committee (and yes, that was 26 applicants multiplied by an average of 2 pages per person, for each of the four of us). It may be your responsibility, but you can certainly ask them to do it. Last time I checked, those offices were there to help US.

On a Vicki-related note, she told me I was an excellent commission chair today. I'm really curious as to what she says behind my back, though.

Date: 2003-12-04 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obisan69.livejournal.com
Oh, and she is definitely an evil troll. No doubt about it.

Vicky Swett

Date: 2003-12-04 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
The ultimate fact of the matter is she is completely unnecessary to the Court. It is a necessity of checks and balances that the Court not have to have someone else ratify their decisions. If she doesn't like doing my paperwork then I'll get someone to write legislation saying she has to. Sooner or later she is gonna have to realize she really isn't my boss. And this mentality of hers that we are "Sara's appointment" has really got to go. Only three of us were appointed by Sara, and Sara's role does not go beyond filling positions that may become empty.


As to me being professional about it.. well its partly a sarcastic over-exageration of their request that I be more formal .. partly that its patronizing to talk like this (= and its a much stronger position to be coming from when I can just present her with a wall of strong arguments like that.


For christmas I should present her and Sara and whomever else all livejournal codes. (=

oh my... oh my..

Date: 2003-12-04 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genuinesarcasm.livejournal.com
Kris..

Dude.. once again, I love your post, and your much needed sauceness to a very suceless/souless ASUCD. Keep up the good work man...

oh.. p.s. - I have an interview late today with the Council on Foreign Relations, for an internship in the Winter. Shit.. if only I get it...

I am out like the Russia from the Kyoto Protocol...

Date: 2003-12-04 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nibot.livejournal.com
By the way, does ASUCD government do anything other than argue about its own structure?

Date: 2003-12-05 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obisan69.livejournal.com
Several members enjoy getting trashed at the Cantina and sleeping around. They also enjoy calling closed sessions because:
a) Someone didn't hire someone else's boyfriend
b) Someone wants to be in control of everyone
c) Vicki Swett said so.

Besides that, and some debates over whether or not we should buy a couch, no not much.

Date: 2003-12-05 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emosnail.livejournal.com
When I got the email notifying me that you'd made this conference I was praaying it was to a public entry. (=


I have this uneasy feeling that it will be specifically my hint that their social lives are "dead," that is going to get me in trouble here. I could have hyperbolically made some sarcastic reference to "no in fact to our knowledge their social lives are FAR from dead" but I figured I'd already pushed the limits enough.

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