Critiquing Discord
Oct. 4th, 2005 04:23 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
So yesterday I missed the Jason Webley show at the hippie cafe because I am a frat boy. (I'd link here to Alvin saying we're all big ass nerds (BANs) in Phi Alpha Delta or something along those lines but its in a comment somewhere deep in my lj). Anyway, we were having our weekly meeting yesterday and everything was going smoothly until a certain member brought up some previously resolved drama (we'll call him The Appellant) and started trying to stick it to the officers. What was really weird about this was for the first time in a very long time someone was having an organizational judicial drama debate and I wasn't involved at all! But I certainly have a lot of experience in the area so I thought I'd at least review it.
Now I have absolutely nothing personal against The Appellant, and despite my opinions on how the drama went down, I still have no personal opinion about him.
So basically what went down is he kept asking the officers questions he intended to implicate them in wrongdoing and wrack them with guilt. And this went on for quite some time. The incident had already been resolved through an agreement between the officers and the member who had been found liable, but The Appellant, uninvolved in the incident, felt that he should demand recourse for the member. Anyway, through his questioning he changed what his actual complaint was to varied other things such as alleged check fraud, failure of officers to adhere to their own duties, lying to the national office, and a variety of other things all of which I believe are completely unfounded. But the point is, I think the act of changing his complaint to whatever it looked like might stick at the moment is really the hallmark of someone whose concern isn't about the original issue but just has beef with The Man and wants to try to stick it to them through any manner possible.
Also the argument went round and round and round, often returning to things already discussed and answered. It was quite tedious. Now I've been in The Appellant's approximate position before, of alleging wrongdoing of an organizations officers (ie Secretary-General Myung's reign of terror in MUN), but I'm proud to say unlike The Appellant in the instant case, I usually kept the discussion down to about two interchanges before I made a motion or stated the action that I was going to take lest they resolve it. This was just messy.
As to our officers, they did a pretty good job considering. My only advise would be (A) try not to get flustered and defensive (they did a good job in this really, but remaining unflustered and undefensive is really the key to making a renegade naysayer look like a nutjob1), and also (B) making a diagram of the situation on the blackboard would of made it harder for him to run around in circles with the issue and would have been delightfully patronizing.
So thats that. Altogether our officers have handled the situation very well, and I know that they had all tried very hard to come to the best solution to the original problem. But hey we're a pre-law fraternity so you have to expect a member to get litigious every now and then.
1But in the event the renegade naysayer is not a nutjob, or the likely circumstance the renegade naysayer is myself (take note, new MUN leadership), it still makes things easier for everyone involved if you try to give the individual the most thought out and serious answers possible. On any account, if the complaintant is myself, it could lessen the enthusiasm with which I make you look like a nutjob to everyone else.
Picture of the Day

I try to be artistic while the professional photographer takes pictures of Kristy's relatives. See also.
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In Other News: Kristy and I hung out with Azver the other day. Today he's playing Dungeons and Dragons with the bouncers from Sophia's. Who does that?
Previously on Emosnail:
Two Years Ago Yesterday: Mysterious Fifth Floor of the MU - RECENTLY DECLASSIFIED - it was unlocked and I ventured up to this forbidden domain.
Year Ago Yesterday: The Sleeze Party - and a list of Russian movies that RUS129 would be viewing.
Year Ago Today: Googlin - I google my name and discuss the results, among other things. Also, Tiqula Bledsoe demonstrates that he sucks at math and isn't afraid make an ass of himself thereby in letters to the editor.
car bombin
Date: 2005-10-06 03:32 am (UTC)The Memorial Union (MU)
Date: 2005-10-05 03:13 am (UTC)Incidently, at a later occasion it was found unlocked again and I ventured up there with several of our ASUCD senators. We then got chased down by some bureaucrat who was having a meeting up there, and admonished "don't you know you're not allowed up here?!" Now this is noteworthy because (A) ASUCD owns the MU, and (B) after this we looked around as we retraced our steps and found that there wasn't actually any sign alerting us that we weren't allowed up tehre. The only way we could glean such on our own was by the fact that its usually locked.
no subject
Date: 2005-10-05 04:55 am (UTC)no subject
Hey what were the two things I told you to remind of next June as blogging gold? One was livejournal madlibs I think...
no subject
Date: 2005-10-06 03:49 am (UTC)Ill think on it... but I totally have forgotten
Yes one was madlibs and the other was.. a award maybe
no subject
Date: 2005-10-05 03:54 pm (UTC)Who, ME?
Re: Who, ME?
Date: 2005-10-06 06:01 am (UTC)Re: Who, ME?
Date: 2005-10-06 07:04 am (UTC)Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-06 12:52 am (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-06 03:27 am (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-07 02:23 am (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-07 05:00 pm (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-08 01:48 pm (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-09 12:19 am (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-09 04:27 pm (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-10 12:34 am (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-13 10:41 pm (UTC)Re: Mystery Science Theatre 3000 D&D
Date: 2005-10-14 01:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-06 06:19 am (UTC)You need to watch Kin Dza Dza.
Russian Cinema
Date: 2005-10-06 07:07 am (UTC)Kin Dza Dza?
My favourite movie was some Georgian movie made in the mid 80s that was really weird and symbolic.. Unfortunately I totally can't remember the name. Second favourite was Prisoner of the Mountains, which came out sometime in the latter 90s (after the first Chechen war presumably, as its about it)
Re: Russian Cinema
Date: 2005-10-06 02:21 pm (UTC)Kin Dza Dza was a Russian sci-fi, and it was pretty weird and symbolic, too, though it was all lost on me. I just thought it was neat.
Re: Russian Cinema
Date: 2005-10-06 05:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-07 01:15 pm (UTC)D&D
Date: 2005-10-07 04:59 pm (UTC)