Roy, Birdsall "Defect" From Original Anticorruption Mandate

[aggienaut]

   At the time, running on promises to end ASUCD corruption and shadiness, the Friends Urging Campus Kindness facebook group accrued an unprecedented 2,000+ subscribers. Since then, official leaders of the group have one by one been guillotined until only three of the original seven remained: Pete Hernandez, Kristen Birdsall, and Rob "Robespierre" Roy. For fear that the mighty banhammer would be used to squash further dissent, leadership of the group was placed under a Protection Committee and Roy was temporarily relieved of bannorizing privileges.
   I then sent out the following message: (title: F.U.C.K. Officers to be Removed by ASUCD)

Friends Urging Campus Kindness was founded in opposition to the corruption and shadiness that had been prevelent at the time within the ASUCD Senate.

Last Thursday the Senate passed legislation retroactively eliminating requirements for office so they could seat certain people. This Thursday the Senate has placed on its agenda the removal of four long-time Friends Urging Campus Kindness supporters for having expressed dissent over this.

Senators Roy and Birdsall, elected via F.U.C.K. themselves, are poised to support this action.

I urge you to tell Roy and Birdsall yourselves whether you feel this represents what F.U.C.K. stands for.

Message Kris Fricke for more ways you can help keep the F.U.C.K. in ASUCD and prevent Senate from fucking F.U.C.K.

   Now it is important to note that I do not state anything which is not true (Roy disputes that they actually intend to remove us, so I didn't say they intended to but that its on the agenda), nor do I add any kind of valuative judgements to the narration (its not the bad, evil, or unethical legislation, it is simply the legislation as its proponents might themselves describe it), and most importantly of all, I do not even call for the party members to oppose the action. I simply urge them to tell their senators themselves how they feel about this.

   As of 5:13pm today ASUCD Senator Robert Roy announced that he and fellow senator Kristin Birdsall “have defected from the [Friends Urging Campus Kindness] party and are now independents.” They are survived by various F.U.C.K. members holding commission positions. Their first action as independants may well be to axe four former compatriots, for reasons which have as yet still not been disclosed.

   Roy is also, incidently, running for City Council, and has expressed an interest in changing the name of the F.U.C.K. facebook group to something presumbably along the lines of "Rob Roy For City Council"

   All four persons set to stand trial tomorrow not only request that the closed session be open to public, but maintain that there is not usually any "deliberations" during Senate, and the only privacy rights that can be invoked are those of the accused, who have waived them, and therefore the common practice of Senate retreating behind closed doors after an "open closed session" may not take place.


   In conclusion, tis better to be independant than have to hear from your constituents.

Comments

[robroy10280.livejournal.com]

the minute that a person joins the ranks of the elections committee or the ASUCD Court, both supposed impartial institutions, they should no longer be part of an ASUCD slate.

Also, F.U.C.K. being an anti-slate slate it makes sense for the people that were elected with the name defect from it. Sounds like natural evolution to be. Also, to merely stand by a F.U.C.K. supporter simply for that reason would be lowering myself to a partisan-hack, which is something i ran against.

[orwell-troll.livejournal.com]

I didn't know that standing by your friends, just for the sake of standing by your friends, made you guilty of partisan-hackery or cronyism. That's what people expect in a leader -- someone who can stand by their people, even when it is difficult to do so. That's not cronyism or partisanship, that's keeping your integrity and your word. If you feel you shouldn't support people when they're wrong, you are wrong. You should try to convince them otherwise, but you should be open to being convinced too.

In short, you need to believe in someone other than yourself to be a true leader. I don't know if you are actually capable of that.

[robroy10280.livejournal.com]

I just try to do my job. If that upsets you Brent, then how about you run for senate and try to do it better.

[orwell-troll.livejournal.com]

Well then, suspend the bylaws to place a constitutional amendment on this ballot, so I can run in Fall 2006.

[robroy10280.livejournal.com]

Listen Brent. Things are getting heated. All I'm saying is: it is well within the right of the senate to investigate things and even if the witnesses are "FUCK supporters" that does not mean it is a witch hunt or that anyone is getting to get fired. It seems to me that there is nothing that I can do to make you happy because I am refusing to be a puppet. Obviously some crazy stuff happened last Thursday and we merely trying to resolve that. You can call me a bad leader. That is fine. It is within your right. I don't trample the first first amendment I just try to sort out what people say.

[orwell-troll.livejournal.com]

This has nothing to do with getting people fired; you're still a bad leader. When a supporter comes up to you and asks, "What can I do to help you?" and you repeatedly send him away, that is bad leadership. You think that because you were elected, you're better than all of the other candidates who didn't. That is not the case. Accepting the help of your friends is not being a puppet.

Plus, you didn't call the closed session, so how do you know people won't be fired?

[robroy10280.livejournal.com]

So I'm a bad leader because I don't like to delegate responsibility. Ok, I will agree with that and take it as friendly constructive criticism.

[wdsguy.livejournal.com]

wtf, i leave for a yr and ppl are trying to get u to resign????

heh, hope all is well chris'o buddy



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[sivart13.livejournal.com]

that was a pretty stupid message to send
but closed sessions are also stupid

this whole thing is stupid

[orwell-troll.livejournal.com]

Thanks for all of the insight you have provided throughout this struggle. After all student government is stupid, and everything they do is stupid, and everyone involved is stupid. Yep, it's all stupid. And by your comments, you convinced everyone on the Senate that the ASUCD is stupid, and they're going to disband it tomorrow. Because we should really all just shut the fuck up, because we're just not interesting.

Oh wait, maybe that's you.

[sivart13.livejournal.com]

yes that's exactly what I've been saying all along and not merely a reactionary response to your numerous anonymous livejournal detractors

[kilkenny.livejournal.com]

i don't remember being guillotined

[emosnail.livejournal.com]

You don't get notified when you lose your moderator status. You were definitely no longer listed there when I first recently looked.

[ashael.livejournal.com]

Radioactive legislation!

[dubloon.livejournal.com]

that's seriously the best concept I've ever heard

radioactive legislation...

-Tim

[revchad.livejournal.com]

about that time loop of righting retroactive legislation to state that all retroactive legislation is void...

Impartial?

[thetalesend.livejournal.com]

Was it impartial to unilaterally disqualify you from the race when you ran for Senate Mr. Roy? Yes indeed I defended you during the elections period and had in fact contacted the UC lawyers threatening a law suit possibly a mitigating factor to your election (and fear from the elections committee). To say that the elections committee is completely without bias is farce at best. Why did the elections committee have Mary Ball a avid supporter of FOCUS having Sarah Henry as a good friend vote to invalidate the campaign for FOCUS in the fall election of 03? Why did some of the same members try to disqualify you Mr. Roy ask yourselves that question you did not seek to break the rules but the roles of those in power change from those seeking it and those who hold it. We all have rambling ideas of grandeur and we all want to help our fellow students but by assuming the students don't care is arrogance. But the issue of leadership does come into this question.

Can you blatantly change the rules of the game during the game? This is what the ASUCD is doing. Can you assume this is bad leadership yes by all standards. A good leader would assume the responsibility and resign from their post in dignity. I still say to recall the whole of the senate we can be certain that their sense of reality of the students moods is wanting at best. You cannot assume the responsibility by hiding under a name change. Resign in dignity or someone will remove you in defeat.