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   So, let's play house. But instead of the husband and wife who conform neatly into their respective gender roles and the 2.5 kids, dog, and a white picket fence, let's make some changes. Let's take this house and shrink it a bit, yet at the same time cram MORE people in. Many more. Let's bring the total number up to around 15. Now lets lock them all in this house for days at a time and toss it around ... also for days at a time.

   Sometimes the house isn't rocking and sometimes they are let out of the house (only for the evening though), but these fifteen people are cooped up together here for months on end.

   So what happens? Is this a particularly bizarre turn on the game of house? "WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING?" you might be asking. But then again, you probably know what I'm getting at here.

   Say these 15 people are mostly around 27, with some outliers down to 20 or up to their 50s. They're roughly 50-50 male female.

   Also they have to work closely together on a daily basis to accomplish coordinated actions. Their work is sometimes fast and intense, where if someone is not doing the right thing at the right time it'll cause everyone delays.

   As you can imagine, there is sometimes tension. Tension over who is more important than who where not clearly defined, tension between people who decide they just plain don't like eachother, etc.


   On the first boat I served on , the Lady Washington (a 68 foot brig), I found the crew to be a tight knit group it was very hard to feel a part of as a newcomer. I languished alone in the main hold and only managed to join the rest of them in the forecastle on my very last day (of three weeks) there.

   When I first hung out with the crew of the Hawaiian Chieftain (a 65 foot topsail ketch) when it passed through Newport Beach I was amazed by how welcome I felt in the group almost immediately. From almost the moment I stepped on the boat crewmembers were inviting me to places with them (the New Years party the first night, to the bar the second night, "dance party in the galley" the next..) and treating me like I was already their shipmate. A sharp contrast to my experience on the Lady.
   However, from the beginning there were also signs that something was amiss. I remember seeing "OFFICER COUNTRY" emblazoned on the door to the forecastle of the HC, and thinking it was an odd and alarming sign. The forecastle on the LW had been CREW quarters, not officer quarters, and while the HC's forecastle is a lot smaller, the whole attitude of it it being "officer country" seemed a bit concerning.
   Additionally there where murmurings about how there'd until recently been divisive cliques on the boat.

   More recently, now that I'm back on the HC, officially part of the crew for six months (and a low level officer to boot!), signs of fractiousness have been numerous. First and foremost there was the shipmate who informed me directly "we are not a tight crew." Then there's been the second guessing I've heard about almost every officer's directions behind their back at one point or another, and the constant speculation about who "belongs" in the forecastle (with only four bunks in there not even all the officers fit, as opposed to the LW which had 8). Also a lot of stories of people who are bitter because they thought THEY deserved that plum promotion or that doing X was not in their position's contract.


   I didn't really put it all together at the time, but in retrospect, I posit that it was specifically because the LW crew was a cohesive functional group that it was harder to feel welcome in. Conversely, the reason I felt immediately welcomed on the HC was because there was utterly no "group" to join.

   The ironic thing about the fighting over the HC's forecastle is that everyone acknowledges they are among the smallest bunks on the boat and ALSO the least pleasant in heavy seas. Really I think the only reason anyone ever wants to be there is because it's perceived to be prestigious.
   In the LW I was grateful to get a place in the forecastle on my last day. In the HC I was offered a spot in the forecastle on my FIRST day... and turned it down.


   The crew now on the HC is largely a different crew from the one I met in June, yet it seems to have the same problem with fractiveness. I propose that the problem is not with the specific people but with the setting. I think the problem lies in the fact that the crew is split roughly 50-50 between the main hold and forecastle, and especially that the latter has some sense of eliteness attached to it. The problem ... is the "officer country" sign and everything it stands for1.


The Hawaiian Chieftain, as I found her in Newport Beach, CA, in January


1 notwithstanding I completely understand the need for officers to to maintain their distance above the enlisted in military contexts. But this is not a military context and I find the elitism promoted by some people in this context to be utterly counter productive and stupid.

Date: 2010-03-31 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magsmom.livejournal.com
You indicated in an earlier post that a couple of people were leaving in the next few weeks. Perhaps with your spirit of camraderie and the change in personnel, the "tightness" of the crew will change too. I predict it will and you will be a big reason for that. Find a cohort and work for the greater good. And keep us posted.

Date: 2010-03-31 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] furzicle.livejournal.com
Yes, exactly what I was thinking. Be Positive!

Date: 2010-04-02 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
I was actually pleasantly surprised -- that same evening after posting this, later in the evening a bunch of us were in the bar having a jolly old time and I overheard our bosun saying to someone else exactly that: that he thought I was a key example of a hoped for turnaround in what the crew was like.

Date: 2010-04-02 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magsmom.livejournal.com
Yay! I knew it. change happens in stages.

You arriving is stage one. (slight shift)

Others leaving is stage two. (another slight shift)

Recalibration.

New people arriving to a recalibrated crew. (stage three)

Change achieved.

Date: 2010-04-02 05:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-31 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-id.livejournal.com
Funnily enough, every other sentence out of Aaron's (Our stew-ed-co) mouth is "Well, on the Hawaiian Cheiftain..." He's fun, but drives us bonkers.

Betcha we could trade him for you when you get here. You'd get his foc's'l berth.

Date: 2010-04-02 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
If they want him back here ;)

I got in trouble for "on the Lady Washington..." the other day. :[ They have some totally unnecessarily complicated way of furling the sails, so I was just like "gee on the lady we just wrap it around and tie a reef knot!" this got me an extremely disapproving look and "forget what you think you know about the lady!!! repeat after me: 'I am an empty glass'!"

::grumble grumble: I still don't know why they have such a complicated way of furling the sails, it seems daft.

Date: 2010-03-31 08:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Not yet.

Date: 2010-03-31 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imafarmgirl.livejournal.com
Looking forward to more of your boat stories. How long will you be on it?

Date: 2010-04-02 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Six months!

Date: 2010-03-31 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allyra.livejournal.com
This is not at all apropos of your entry, but I thought you might be interested in this: Beehive found in Rosslyn Chapel - just in case you hadn't already seen it.

Good luck with the crew - sounds like a challenge!

Date: 2010-04-02 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Neat!! Thanks for that link, that's really neat.


Funny how it just casually mentions two skeletons at the end of the article. Um what??

Date: 2010-03-31 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onda-bianca.livejournal.com
The bee man is now the boat man, huh? Too bad everybody can't just get along! I think it would be an awesome reality tv show to document your boating adventures. It sounds like there's the potential for ridiculocity with the combination you mentioned.

Date: 2010-04-02 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
It would be pretty interesting, though I still think just life at the old beekeeping business would be a funnier TV reality show. We got up to some real shenanigans there!

Date: 2010-03-31 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baxaphobia.livejournal.com
Ah interpersonal dynamics. I think this would be an interesting study in group behavior.

Date: 2010-04-02 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Yes I'm actually rather excited about that aspect of it!

Oh, I see...

Date: 2010-03-31 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giographix.livejournal.com

At first I thought you had watched MTV's The Real World or some equally obnoxious reality series. Hey — imagine if you could have all those peeps sign waivers to let you video tape everything.

Re: Oh, I see...

Date: 2010-04-02 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Don't let MTV get ahold of this idea they might talk the central office into having us do it!

Date: 2010-03-31 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] technophobe1975.livejournal.com
I suggest A MUTINY!

Date: 2010-03-31 09:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowwolf13
Heh, things always change when people are shoved into tight quarters and given some indication that there is a better half of the quarters.

Date: 2010-04-02 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
And I think it's kind of hilarious in this case that the "better half" is NOT ACTUALLY BETTER!

Not only are they smaller but people have to go through there to get to the pantry OR the engine room, and every time the engine room door opens (which will happen at least twice an hour all night while on transit you'll be blasted with loud engine noise and bright light. So really not a better place.

Date: 2010-04-02 03:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowwolf13
Perception is reality though. People tend to let their lizard brain go active and not stop to fully think things through. :)
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Date: 2010-04-02 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Yesyes comeover on a research grant. Stuuuuudy us. (:

Date: 2010-04-01 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaberryblue.livejournal.com
This post makes me want to have a reality show contest on a tallship.

Date: 2010-04-03 09:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-02 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alycewilson.livejournal.com
Good luck on your new voyage. At first I thought you were talking about a reality show, but no, you're talking about your reality!

Date: 2010-04-02 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
Haha yes, welcome to my life. Fortunately there are no video cameras. Actually it would be pretty dull most of the time I think.

Date: 2010-04-02 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawchicky.livejournal.com
I love reading about all of your different adventures :)

Date: 2010-04-03 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emo-snal.livejournal.com
(: that's why I do it, for the readers!! :D jk jk

Date: 2010-04-03 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hug-machine.livejournal.com
sjdhsdkajsdn

You have the coolest adventures ever! I kinda wanna steal borrow your life for a little while! XD

Date: 2010-04-03 05:13 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-03 09:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mstrobel.livejournal.com
That was fascinating :D

Date: 2010-04-03 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joeymichaels.livejournal.com
Ha! I love that it was made in Lahaina. What a strange origin story for a ketch! I wonder if there are others built on Maui?

Date: 2010-04-03 02:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] connie
Somehow I put this together with [livejournal.com profile] talonkarrde88's entry from this week and am imagining you all killing each other before the six months are through. I hope you'll influence the atmosphere for good though, and I am a fan of this entry!

Date: 2010-04-03 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talon.livejournal.com
*blinks* oh, I do hope they don't kill each other :p

Date: 2010-04-05 09:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] connie
Oh, I guess your people didn't actually kill each other, unless the commander leaving the base without the atmosphere being restored meant he couldn't breathe or something... I was just letting my imagination run away, haha.

Date: 2010-04-03 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talon.livejournal.com
...the more you write about this...

well, the more i kinda want to do it.

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